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Question: ur a student of hapkido and tang so do which are to martial arts thats repuation if suffering since the arrival within the early 90s of mixed militaristic arts tournements, can i have u honest oppinion on how u reckon them styles would match up againt styles such as brazilian jiu jitsu, muay thai, sambo, freestyle wrestling, judo which are adjectives combat proven.
lets vote that ur opponent and u are physically exact
also would u like to see world class hapkido/tang so do players enter voluminous fight organisations such as ufc or pridefc
when styles fall short in mma resembling tkd kung fu or krav maga the myth sorounding the styles seems to die would u a bit keep u style underneath raps to preserve the myth,
i ask u because u seem to be to be a very sagacious man with tonnes of best answers
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all right I'm flattered that you seem to believe that I am a "wise man" (I'm more of a wisea**, lol) but I simply call it as I see it, no tradition, simply my opinion, and freshly because I may lead the channel with the most answers doesn't aim I'm right, only that i've be helpful to those who asked the question, as most anyone else does and just bestow my opinion on various of the questions here. but there're several others here who can answer your examine just as smoothly if not better than I can. My reasononing is to distribute an opinion as external as possible.
The big truth about Martial Arts is that they are ALL combat proven at one time or another, but several of them resembling Jujitsu, Judo, freestyle wrestling and such were evolved into sport or competitions, in recent times as Most Martial Arts have be ever since Martial Arts has become a "business" and commercialized.
I don't expect that the Martial arts themselves are suffering due to the increased popularity of Muay Thai and Brazilian Jujitsu or Jujitsu in common because of their heavy inflection in the MMA competition circuits. because in that are schools of these Martial Arts that're world widespread and continue to flourish due to steadfast people.
but fatefully many folks are (and often will) blindly following the "popular" impression just because they own an impressive competetive milieu and proven themselves and the discipline they study. but I still choose to study the discipliines that I do simply because I don't like to follow the croud or the "popular" viewpoint; and I'll still give anyone that studies ANY Martial Art their due respect.
My belief is that it should be a brotherhood (and sisterhood for the ladies who also study Martial Arts). that we should respect respectively other and the disciplines we study and learn from respectively other to become better people and better ourselves. Sounds impracticable yes, but that's just my outlook about how Martial Arts should be because so oodles practitioners from many disciplines and background can and have done it previously, but when there are those who hold the bad atttiudes it only tears down those bridges that were complicated fought to build.
If you look at the match between Matt Hughes and Royce Gracie precipitate last year, in a minute matt only really have Greco Roman wrestling in highschool and college but he be able to modify and change for the sport, and Royce have his training in Brazilian Jujitsu that his father help develop, but he was also competent to adapt for the varying of the sport. but the fact does remain that Royce be beaten by the better competitor that day, who merely happened to be Matt Hughes. in a minute does that say that the Brazilian Jujitsu will suffer greatly? I don't contemplate so; and neither will Hapkido, Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwan Do, or any of the other traditional or classic disciplines, because it's the stigma of opinion explicitly the real problem.
Because if you look at several of the bios of oodles of these mainstream fighters have a classic or traditional martial arts conditions before they competed surrounded by the MMA competitions. (i.e. Anderson Silva: Tae Kwon Do, and Chuck Liddel: Kenpo, just to cross a couple.)
these disciplines can match okay against other disciplines but as I (and many others enjoy said) will always say-so that it goes backbone to the practitioner and how well they enjoy trained in their discipline, it's not the discipline itself that loses, but the individual, and that`s why the individual must do better next time and train harder to overcome anything shortcomings they faced previously. and there's always someone better.
I trained next to a Brazilian Jujitsu practitioner recently (the 15th if you're reading this much later) which he is a honourable aquaintance of mine (since he comes to many of the PPV's to study the fights next to the rest of the guys in my class) and he nail me every time with his great set ups and body positioning that he used to put me within a submission technique so I learned rather a bit from him and look forward to training with him again, so that I can become better at my own discipline and share the expertise of what we've learned next to each other.
and the problem beside being "physically identical" is that theres not a soul that's phisically identical to anyone else, nearby may be the similarities but we are all different but still are similar within our "core" as human beings, just as the Martial Arts are different and similar at impossible to tell apart time.
we may walk, consult, act contained by different ways, look different, speak different but we all are still matching fundamentally. just as ALL the Martial Arts are base around similar principles just qualified differently.
and yes I would like to see more fighters next to traditional or classic backgrounds enter contained by the MMA circuits more, but again these competitions have rules that you must follow surrounded by order to compete, whereas EVERY Martial Art have been developed from the origin to do what's necessary to survive an encounter near someone who wants to hurt or kill in cold blood you, and it means that you do anything is necessary no issue how dirty the technique is.
and no I don't think that only because someone else was the better participant against someone who studies the same discipline I do next to these disciplines that are growing in popularity, doesn't be set to I'm going to just turn away from what I've worked for, I'll still be purely as proud of my Martial Arts heritage, I couldn't care smaller amount about what anyone else think of the Martial Arts that I've studied.
myths are just myths, only just like fable, legends, or folk stories: as they're passed down and interpreted by different people, they gain for a time more of that "tabloid" bolstering that only add to the myth because it's only grass that started out with solely a small fraction of truth. even if what has be said is disproved, it's still the storytelling that grabbed you contained by the first place.
my feeling is that adjectives this chest beating in the order of "what Martial Art is the best" is just overrated, but afterwards again that's what we guys do right do our best to look like idiots sometimes. it's contained by our blood right down to the DNA to show off.
I hope that I've given something of closure to your request for information, but that's just my thoughts and ramblings, fitting luck dude. :D
e-mail him duh
You cant direct questions at family on this forum
First off you should own e-mailed him.
Second UFC is sport fighting ,they hold rules, it's not the same as the street.
Third if Quicksilver doesn't answer , I'd be glad to cart any questions. I hold done some training in tang soo do , and soo bahk do, though my chosen style is kajukenbo kenpo.
Respectfully ,
Ray H
Well even though I am not the guy you are looking for allow me to retort.
Hapkido and alot of other war arts do not have competitions. Or plentiful of them that do have competition, they are lately Kata competitions that look more like dancersize or Thai-Bo. Krav Maga is not designed to be a war style it is a self defence and combat style intended for military and police to disarm and subdue citizens.
Judo, Sambo, JuJitsu and Wrestling have the benefit of have competitions all over the world so yes more artists from those styles will hold fight experience. However, as much conflict experience as I have contained by Judo that's means jack when it comes to MMA. It's not Judo and Sambo fighters that are going into MMA and dominating. It's college wrestlers or guys who construe they are tough getting into amature MMA events. They fight until they lose after when they do they go out and try and swot a bit of thw style of the guy who beat them. Some win more than othes and seize scouted to UFC or PRIDE. But 9 out of 10 never go beyound local events.
As for BJJ. It is with the sole purpose popular amongst MMA fighters, because of the gracie family and it is a impressively basic form of JuJitsu so it is easier to swot and easier to get you black belt. Real Jujitsu take years. Thats why you here about adjectives these fighters who are BJJ black belts but guys like GSP are still just blue or brown belts in JuJitsu.
Also one item about war is size and rank really don't concern. In tournaments they devide us up into weight and category. But in TRUE life and contained by the dojo. We don't get to train next to nor do we get attacked by general public our own size or skill.
Oh and other than BJJ, JJ, Muay Thai and Wrestling. You don't hear almost other styles. Mean while Liddell is a black belt in Kempo Karate but they call upon him a freestyle fighter beside good wrestling skills. And GSP is a black belt within TKD but he only realy used the see boxing skills he learned and the JuJitsu.
Bottom column is these styles are not better. They are just easier to cram and use in a scuffle. But clearly the fighters with a long surroundings in other MA styles are coming out on top.
I construe I'm more interested in how BJJ would hold up against a gorilla within a full MMA bout.
they have already done the "boxing kangaroo". I want to see grappling apes!
and human being wise near a lot of best answers doesnt be going to it is correct. it is just that questioners enjoy got the answer they required, for better or worse. near are a lot of virtuous answers coming through this place yet they are not the answers that the questioner requests to here, be it truth or not.
its all perspective, especially here surrounded by the martial arts thread. but if you bring a look at the religion thread the best answerer there is religious, so associates vote for him if they believe, but it doesnt mean it represents realness.
one mans logic is another man lie. to err is human.
as for mixing one style up against another, you own to eliminate the rules that dictate the vocabulary. you cant take a special forces slayer and then say aloud "ok, but you have to fray submission wrestling only" or to pit a BJJ fighter against a Muay Thai guy and influence "ok, but you cant grapple, you can only confrontation stand up"
any style can only be tested outside the borders of rules, and only consequently can you test it and the individual using it.
As a general rule, I would speak that MMArtists are more well rounded to bar a variety of situations moresoe than the disparate. Having said that, the average person you gather round on the street is more than likely not going to be a professional UFC or Pride opponent. In addition, if you've spent any sound amount of time training, once you encounter someone on the street you should be able to smartly get a sense of whether or not they are trained. Hapkido and Tang Soo Do can be deep, but so can some shmuck on the street with a spear. It just depends on the party. No one is invincible, even Tito Ortiz & Chuck Liddell can be taken out. The octagon is much different than the street.
MMA is a sport with rules. war under MMA rules, an MMA combatant will have the ascendancy since that is how he trains. Without rules, a traditionally trained Martial Artist will own the advantage due to a better mindset.
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